tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4197204543030756767.post6658552007861807798..comments2023-05-03T15:53:16.140+01:00Comments on Father Mervyn's Blog: MEETING OF ESSEX CBSFather Mervyn Jenningshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17053613428222136067noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4197204543030756767.post-52219935946446592482011-11-16T22:19:48.166+00:002011-11-16T22:19:48.166+00:00Lack of communion has been a feature of the CofE s...Lack of communion has been a feature of the CofE since 1992. The Ordinariate is a dramatic new development. You seem to be keen to point out the difficulty of having a Confraternity in which full communion is not possible and yet happy to remain in the CofE where Erm well, Sally is a Priest. There is no doubt whatsoever about the Orders of Fr Pearson et al yet the CofE says that your orders are the same as the Rev Sally in the next door parish. Next year Rev Sally may well becom Rt Rev Sally, so wake up, smell the coffee and rejoice that the Trustees have had the foresight to help secure an ecclesial future in the Anglican Tradition for our Children and Grandchildren!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4197204543030756767.post-88712685576129706262011-11-16T08:52:32.609+00:002011-11-16T08:52:32.609+00:00As with many associates, there is only one elected...As with many associates, there is only one elected (see CBS website) Trustee that I have confidence with. Fr Mervyn gives balanced and fair comment. It is not for associates to resign en mass if they have no confidence in the trustees, quite the opposite. I agree also that the grant should have been handed over a period of time, with the same qualifications as otherapplicants. It should also have been proportionate to the level of associates that have joined. Sadly this has caused damage to the Ordinariate as well as CBS. And how can we have a Society where most of the members are not in communion with the few that have so far joined the ORdinariate?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4197204543030756767.post-36530123520115797082011-11-14T16:19:47.910+00:002011-11-14T16:19:47.910+00:00It is not the role of associates (you are not memb...It is not the role of associates (you are not members) of the Confraternity to make decisions like this. It is the role of those elected to that office, i.e. the trustees. They were duly elected, and they have exercised their office in keeping with the laws which govern that office, therefore they have, de facto, acted in a moral way. I don't know if it's the woeful level of theology or the complete lack of knowledge of the law which is most distressing here.CBS Associatenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4197204543030756767.post-90196934175982817702011-11-14T12:07:29.363+00:002011-11-14T12:07:29.363+00:00I'm not seeking to keep the money; as the meet...I'm not seeking to keep the money; as the meeting indicated, the money should have been spread over a period of time rather than donated in a lump sum. As I indicated at the meeting, and reiterate here, I support the Ordinariate and appreciate the financial problems that they have. As far as I can ascertain, in the past, CBS grants have been made for specific purposes i.e. the Altar at Walsingham, Christ Our Future and of course, to individual parishes for Tabernacles, Vestments, Monstrances etc. I can see no reason why Ordinariate members of CBS should not follow the same path and make individual application for grants. And I can see no reason why these should not be granted if the reason for the application is in keeping with the principles of CBS. It could also be appropriate for the Ordinariate to apply for grants for specific purposes.Father Mervyn Jenningshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17053613428222136067noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4197204543030756767.post-23773846318976823012011-11-14T11:51:12.606+00:002011-11-14T11:51:12.606+00:00The trustees have given a grant to a body which ca...The trustees have given a grant to a body which can provide a Catholic provision for our children and grandchildren. You seek to keep that money in a church which cannot provide for Catholics for more than a few years. I know which I would call "moral". If anglican priests are going to behave like this then maybe we should all join the Ordinariate now.Rosehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16023575191148135711noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4197204543030756767.post-20789312183117422002011-11-14T06:38:20.619+00:002011-11-14T06:38:20.619+00:00Perhaps the answer is for those who feel such lack...Perhaps the answer is for those who feel such lack of confidence to resign and leave the Confraternity!Doodlerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10476313122409864359noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4197204543030756767.post-78751057453109479182011-11-14T00:05:28.692+00:002011-11-14T00:05:28.692+00:00First, the meeting had not ended. The Superior-Gen...First, the meeting had not ended. The Superior-General had to leave to attend another appointment and he suggested that the meeting should continue. Those who attended the meeting felt unanimously that they had no confidence in the Trustees and the majority of them are Life Members.<br /><br />Thank you for your comments Rose. Legal advice notwithstanding what about the morality of passing over £1million without consulting the membership. Many of the members are very upset by this and they have a perfect right to express that, which those attending the meeting chose to do. Every member of CBS in Essex received a written invitation to attende the meeting.<br /><br />Father Mervyn Jennings SSCFather Mervyn Jenningshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17053613428222136067noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4197204543030756767.post-88806620629758204952011-11-13T22:58:14.433+00:002011-11-13T22:58:14.433+00:00Absolutely pathetic! The trustees acted with integ...Absolutely pathetic! The trustees acted with integrity and following legal advice! They sought to uphold the objects. And, re your rediculous motion, which trustees do you have no confidence in? All the present trustees? Those who made the grant? Those who made the grant and are members of the ordinariate? You can't even draft a clear motion! Thank God you are not running CBS!Rosehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16023575191148135711noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4197204543030756767.post-79533000710839527772011-11-13T22:07:54.317+00:002011-11-13T22:07:54.317+00:00This is disgraceful behaviour to wait until a meet...This is disgraceful behaviour to wait until a meeting has finished, the Charman has departed and then to reconvene and take such a vote is a gross breach of the constitution and of civilised behaviour. Any such vote on such an issue would need to announced in advance so that everyone would be able to decide in full knowledge of the agenda that such business was to be transacted. I am a life member of the CBS and chose not to attend the meeting but most certainly would have done if I had known that such a motion was to be discussed. There are many others like me and this so-called vote has no credibility or validity it was little more than a Kangaroo court!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com